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#for symmetry purposes I have flipped the 87 photo#they be fighting#lair games#heart of evil#donatello’s duplicate#tmnt#rottmnt#tmnt 2012#tmnt 1987#leonardo#donatello#please let me know if there’s another#it’s fun to look at them all next to each other#rottmnt disaster twins#disaster twins
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@tizeline 's ctiys!!! THE BABIES!!!!
#i had to duplicate the lineart a few times to thicken it cuz it was NOT working with my coloring style#but ooooh my gosh i love them#the little guys#gornack art tag#rottmnt#gornack click to see details tag#ctiys#tmnt ctiys#rottmnt art#rottmnt donnie#rottmnt donatello#rottmnt april
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Evil Clone 87 Donatello from Donatello's Duplicate for @cupcakeslushie DTIYS! I saw this DTIYS and somehow this is what first came to mind.
In the episode Donatello’s evil clone commands a rat army, rats at first provided by the rat king, hence why they’re here. I just loved his cocky attitude. I could write a whole episode of this bastard returning as a viable threat. I COULD-
#tmnt 1987#1987 donatello#donatello's duplicate#EW#empyrean weeping au#ewdtiys#get in dum dums we’re going vandalizing#get in dum dums#gdd#rottmnt donnie#rottmnt#He might appear in my fic#maybe ;)#friday the 13th#maybe
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these duos have the exact same fucking dynamic
#rottmnt#tmnt 87#tmnt 1987#87 donnie#rise donnie#i missed going thru turtlepedia galleries lmao#if anyone hasnt seen the episode donatellos duplicate you are MISSING OUT...
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ain't he one of them juvenile karate lizards?
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My first post on here, hello!! 👋 These drawings are from what I call my ROTTMNT Haunted! au!! Below is a pretty long explanation ⬇️
When Casey jr went through the portal, as the lone survivor raised by the Hamato clan, all the spirits from the timeline he knew went with him. After the movie, on the morning of halloween, Michelangelo wakes up to discover the undead spirits of himself and his brothers from the Darkest Timeline in his house. He can talk to them, touch them, but nobody else except Draxum can even see them.
Future Mikey, who has been affectionately dubbed “Uncle Angelo,” has a theory for why they aren’t at rest; Hamato souls have specific slots in the ninpo family line. Since their exact souls already exist in the good timeline, they’re duplicates who don’t have anyplace to go. So he devises a plan; create a mystic spell to add additional slots to the family line to let the Dead Dogs lie.
Casey jr has almost nothing to do all day, so he’s been spiraling lately, not getting sleep and constantly looking for things to do. Every time he finds something enjoyable, he just wishes his family, the family that raised him was there to see it. He always tags along on missions to create and fulfill the slot spell, even if it hurts.
Future Leonardo (“gramps” to Mikey,) tends to fixate on Jr, how/what he’s doing. He’s pleased to see his mental health in a good state, but that’s only because he saw him when other people were around. When the truth about Jr becomes clearer to him, he becomes more.. reluctant about the spell.
However, as time passes, the veil between the spirit world and the mortal plane begins to thicken, and the lines between the present turtles and their future counterparts begin to blur. Mikey starts dreaming about fights he never fought, older than he ever was in kraangified wastelands he’s never seen anything close to. He’ll wake up in a cold sweat, thinking like an old wizard before he remembers he’s 15, he lives in the sewers, and he stopped all that stuff from coming to pass. These nightmares are becoming more vivid. Time is the one luxury they do not have.
Will the spell work?
(Additional context; Donatello can move things with his pointer finger slightly, like that politician character from that Ghost show. Additionally, Leonardo can try to deliver messages to people in their dreams, Mikey has some control over wind, Raph can make things rattle a bit, and April, they don’t know where she went. They know she’s here, where is she?)
These drawings are from months ago, I’m reposting them here because I’ve given up on revealing the lore through comics 😭😭😭 it’s easier for me to write it out. I can’t keep the Thoughts a secret anymore, I have to talk about it aksjakshaj, textposting save me textposting
#rottmnt#rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles#rise of the tmnt#artists on tumblr#fanart#tmnt au#rottmnt au#ROTTMNT;Haunted au#cw major character death#tmnt#rottmnt mikey#rottmnt future mikey#rottmnt future timeline#gonetoforks’ art
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Thoughts on 1987 tello?
mostly emotions tbh (I love him very much) (thoughts and nonsense rambling under the cut)
He's so dramatic, he loves singing and dancing, if he puts on a trench coat he has to narrate everything in a noir voice,
He is the most likely out of the 1987 turtles to choose violence. He becomes the Dark Turtle and goes after Shredder. He's ready to leave the punk frogs in danger (I don't remember the situation) and when Leonardo pushes that they have to help even if the frogs still try to attack them, he gives the most "well okay you're the leader" shrug. Like 'I explained our strategic advantage to you plainly and it was clearly too advanced for you to understand so I guess I'll be nice and go along with what you say"
it's not uncommon for him to split off from the group because he'll think of something and have to go get the parts for it. He also just goes off alone sometimes, like as the Dark Turtle or when his car got stolen so he stole the car thief's car in order to chase them and was then himself being chased by the police because the whole reason they stole his car was because they stole something else first and the police recognized the car they were in previously. And he refuses to explain to his bros what's going on because he doesn't want them to know the turtle van got nabbed from him after he spent so long fixing it up. Which situation leads to one of my favorite Raph and Don moments (I have a lot of those aksjfjsj)
Donatello, hanging up the phone: Great, now they guys think I'm a crook. Won't they feel bad when they find out I'm only a liar!
Later, when they find out
Michelangelo: I knew Donatello wasn't a crook!
Raphael, feeling the least bad he's ever felt in his life: No, only a liar
I love how much he wants his bros attention, he's so middle child y'all.
Another favorite moment, in the episode where Splinter becomes human for a day, at the start of it when they're all noticing he's sad (im paraphrasing the heck out of this scene)
Raphael, Leonardo, and Michelangelo: Ohh Master Splinter didn't eat his sushi ☹️ Sushi is his favorite ☹️☹️
Donatello: Well of course he doesn't want sushi, who would want to eat raw fish?
Raphael, Leonardo, and Michelangelo: Our Sensei who loves sushi is not eating sushi... this is such a travesty we must find out what made him sad
Donatello: I hate raw fish so very deeply much
He's so stupid I love him so much. And! He is egotistic and can be quick to anger and does sometimes ignore/not notice other people's feelings, but. He is also truly deeply and believably a sweetheart! He would do anything for his bros and he mostly shows his love through actions.
Like when they all wanted Leonardo to lighten up some, and he had a machine that would supposedly (and did in fact) do just that, but he insisted it was not safe and they were not to use it on him (they did anyway but that's not the point akdjsja). Or the fact that he made the health-o-meter. Or when Michelangelo is crying over the stove and he hugs him so gently and pats him on the back "I know" fjksjfj stop it 😭. Whenever the 87 turtles hug I die from the cuteness and come back to life from the cuteness. you know the saying, cuteness killed the cat but cuteness brought it back, or something like that
Or in Donatello's Duplicate where it's shown that besides his inventions he's doing a lot of little household repairs for them, which gets him frustrated when it piles up too much and is why he makes a clone, who turns out to be evil and by the end of the ep he's like 'I was so silly why wouldn't I be happy? I love fixing things and I love helping my family and I'm so lucky I get to do both!' And I definitely have some feelings about them ending the episode this way (the big donatello crossover involving a karaoke night is to address this), but it is really sweet regardless, he really loves them so much
Okay this is half-formed and mayhaps confusing but you gave me an opportunity so here's a thought that's been in the back of my mind. I like thinking about the ways later cartoons drew from 87, especially balancing it with Mirage. Because Mirage Don is the pacifist. He hates guns. In the mirage comic the 03 HATE episode was based on, it ends with a little speech from Donatello about how he feels bad for killing the terrorists, even though they saved more lives by doing it. When Raph wants to go back to NYC to face the Shredder but Leo insists they (he) needs more time at the farmhouse, Don backs Leo up saying "we aren't the keepers of society, Raph. We never were."
And that's very different from 87 Donatello. But at the same time you can see their similarities when a situation comes up in mirage and Raph (and sometimes Leo) go straight to "We gotta help!" and Donatello counters with "Do we? Can we? What if we make things worse" 87 Donatello has that same pragmatism, even if he feels deeply about a situation he's gonna look at it and say What can I do, not necessarily What should I do. (this works in the positive and the negative akdhsha)
... Anyway that wasn't the thought I was thinking of. The thought I was gonna and will now share is like this: you know that 2012 episode where they go into Mikey's psyche and meet a bunch of different Mikeys? What if 87 Donatello's psyche and the different hims are the other Dons
Because out of all of them I feel like he encompasses something from each of them
So it's like
87 Donatello: Welcome to my Mind. You'll meet all the sides of my compelling and complex personality here. This is my nurturing side
03 Donny: Hey guys! Why do you have your initials on your belt buckles lol
87 bros:
Donatello: He's usually much nicer than that. This is my theatrical side
Rise Donnie, has not noticed guests, strumming imagine guitar: past corridor B, down the stairs past the ibis tapestry--
Donatello: This is my sarcastic side. He also usually covers hormonal stuff
12 Don, tongue stuck out in concentration while he draws himself with big muscles:
Donatello: And this is the part of me that likes to annoy Raphael.
Bayverse D, slurping from a juicebox: :)
Raphael: Well that's all fine, but can you show us the Donatello in charge of all that science genius stuff so he can show us a way out of here?
All Donatellos gathered around like a fairy circle: 👁️ 👁️
87 bros:
Donatello: Oh, they all do science. It wouldn't be fair to the other guys to give it to just one.
Raphael: Of course, that makes sense (hates his life rn)
ALSO guys guys I should probably wait to say this since I don't even have a draft yet akdjshaj. But if you've read this far I think you'll appreciate this: Donatello is going to sing My Way at karaoke night 💜
#tmnt#tmnt 1987#1987 donatello#thanks for the ask!#always love talking about tmnt characters#btw i fixate on characters and either forget or mix up plots a lot#never take me as an authority for plots of any iteration lol
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click on the image and up your brightness for the second pic!!! it came out darker than i expected it to LMAO ((it looks lighter on my laptop screen :<))
@starsinthenigth i'm not sure what the context of this is,, maybe your sona got caught snatching donnie's stuff (つω`。)?? it's supposed to be present dontron,, but he looks like future donnie so i guess he can also be that...? whatever you want!!! ヽ(>∀<☆)ノ(((o(*°▽°*)o)) (((o(*°▽°*)o)))
((alt context could be that steren accidentally vwooped themself into the bad end future and was noticed by future purple man? (•⩊•)))
from left to right;; it's the reference i used for the fisheye lens thingy ((brock lee,, found it after searching 'fisheye' on pinterest HSHFKDJF)),, the original donnie looking down at steren before i realized it doesn't quite make sense and extended it with the addition of tilting everything,,, and the height difference between steren and donnie ((6 inches is 15.20 cm and 5'3 is 160 cm)) that i used!!!
sorry if i'm annoying you with these random art posts,, i don't want to make you feel like you have to respond every time (#><) (#><) !!!
i remember seeing you say something about a first-person g/t horror game and i thought of this a while after!! i think i drew this two to three days ago?? i drew steren first then donatello;; but after that i realized that if i wanted it to be from the pov of steren looking up at him; i'd have to either redraw the entire thing ((i realized it only after i finished rendering)) or duplicate everything and use the transform thingy to fix the perspective and move the color layers to fit into the lineart :PP
it made me take a break from it for like a day or two cause i got a little overwhelmed after shrimping over my pc screen for a few hours but i finished it!! ta-daahhh!!!! it still kinda doesn't look right to me ((i feel like donnie should still be a little bigger than that..? not sure though,, i can't exactly visualize how it would look very well)) but i don't feel like editing it a second time (ノ*°▽°*) (ノ*°▽°*) !!!! /lh
#kittykitty art#starry night sky!!!#merrrmmmmmemmemrmrmem;; i moved my rambling into the actual post so now i don't know what to put in the taaagsss......#steren could be held like burger /silly
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Hi would it be alright if I ask what wips are you working on ?
just wanna make sure I don’t in a request that someone else already sent in XD
hope your doing ok :)
Thank you for your concern! My carpal tunnel has been approving somewhat these last few weeks! Hopefully I'll be able to find some free time this weekend while I'm off to knock down some of this list.
Also if you do happen to send in an idea similar to someone else's; don't worry too much about it because I don't mind, I like the challenge~ Duplicates give me the opportunity to try out different ideas that I may have for a single plot/theme.
Btw sorry about not really posting anything these last few weeks... I kinda forgot to pay my wifi bill so I didn't really have internet for awhile until I got paid again... Anyways—
Here we are!
P.S. I might add more later on.
WIPS LIST
ROTTMNT
Future Yandere Turtle Series: Leo, Donnie Raph, Mikey
Another future Yan Donatello x Reader short fic I got planned
ROTTMNT Yandere Adults Series: Draxum, Big Mama, Lou Jitsu/Splinter
Yan Raph x Reader Zombie AU
Yan ROTTMNT Spiderverse AU! x Reader headcanons/drabble
Yan ROTTMNT x Spiderverse Reader headcanons/drabbles
Yan Donatello x Reader Jack the Ripper AU!
Fluffy Yan Platonic Future Leon/Preteen reader
Witch Reader x Yan Post movie Mikey
Time Mistress Reader x Yan Post movie Leo
Yan Leo x mutated rabbit S/o
Platonic Yan Hamato Clan x Reader
Yan Leo x Chubby s/o
Yan Donatello x Trans Woman s/o
Yan Future Mikey x stubborn Reader
Yan TMNT 2k12 vs Yan ROTTMNT x Reader
Platonic Yan Jealous Older Brother Donatello with Little sibling Reader
Yan Raph vs Donnie x Salamander!Mutant!Reader
Self-Aware Yan Mad Dogs x Real World Reader
TMNT 2k3
Yan Turtle's reactions to s/o being mutated in front of them
TMNT 2k12
Song req (Random Turtle) x Reader
Yan Mikey x Human Bff Headcanons
Yan TMNT 2K12 vs Yan ROTTMNT x Reader Headcanons
Raph Vs Leo x Purple Dragon Thief Reader
Yan Casey Vs Yan Donnie Vs Yan Mikey x April's friend Reader
LMK
Yan Not the Mayor x Tang apprentice Reader
Yan MK x Ex-possed LBD Reader
Fluffy Red Son x Reader sketches
Yan Red Son x Macaque's assistant Reader x Yan Mei
Yan Macaque x Reader chase scene
Yan Platonic Azure Lion vs Sun Wukong x Reader
Yan Spider Queen/Spider Gang x Moth Demon reader
HTTYD
Yan Snotlout x Gobber's apprentice Reader x Yan Eret
Yan Snotlout vs Yan Eret x Reader
Yan Snotlout x Dragon Rider Reader
Fluffy Yan Snotlout x Dragon Rider Reader
Yan Hiccup x isekaied Reader
Yan Hiccup x Dragon Rider Reader
Yan Hiccup x Reader
Yan Hiccup x Reader who is scared of dragons
Yan Hiccup x fellow Night fury rider Reader
Yan Hybrid Toothless x Viking Reader
Yan Hybrid Toothless x Hybrid Night Fury Reader
Dead by Daylight
Leon Vs Steve x Survivor Reader
Villianous
Yan Dr Flug x Reader headcanons
Unicorn: Warriors Eternal
Yan Winston vs Yan Edred x Reader
Yan Winston x Reader
Yan Edred x Reader
Record of Ragnarok
Shy/Meek Reader x Yan Buddha
Spiderverse ATSV and ITSV
Yan Miguel O'Hara x Dimension Jumper reader
Yan Miguel O'Hara x Reader headcanons
Addiction: Yan Miguel O'Hara x Reader fic
Yan Peter B Parker x Reader headcanons
Fluffy Peter B Parker x Reader headcanons
Yan Peter B Parker x Single Mom reader headcanons
Fluffy Yan Platonic Miguel O'Hara and Platonic Yan Jessica Drew wirh Homeless Teen Reader
Yan Miles Morales x Venom!Reader
#im a simp#yandere#male yandere#yandere tmnt#yandere rottmnt#rottmnt#yandere x reader#male yandere x reader#rise of the tmnt#lmk fandom#yandere lmk#yandere lego monkie kid#yandere httyd#yandere how to train a your dragon#record of ragnarok#yandere record of ragnarok#yandere unicorn warriors eternal#unicorn warriors eternal#villianous#yandere villianous#dr flug#yandere across the spiderverse#yandere atsv#yandere miguel o'hara#yandere peter b parker#dead by daylight#yandere dead by daylight#yandere x y/n#Yandere Itsv#spiderverse au
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2018!Donnie: Okay, pause for a moment, just what is you two's issue with our 80s duplicate? He is a lovely addition to the team who truly understands the need to combine function with theme on inventions!
2003!Don: Look, it's not that we don't like him, it's just that... well... he simply doesn't make sense!
2012!Donnie: NONE of the guys from that Turtle Power troop do! Their Donatello can just hit things and they suddenly start working, each of them can pull objects from nowhere and they all just start talking to space sometimes for seemingly no reason! And everyone in their dimension treats this as normal! It's like the laws of reality don't even apply to them!
2018!Donnie: *crosses his arms and looks utterly unimpressed*
2018!Donnie: Oh I'm sorry, you were expecting universal laws to still apply to people from a different universe? You honestly expect me to believe that either of you are men of science when your first instinct to someone breaking the laws of reality was to dismiss their entire existence instead of studying it??? You both are a disgrace to the Donatello name.
2018!Donnie: *turns to 80s!Don, who's been in the background the entire time working on the most 80s-ass ray gun you can possibly imagine*
2018!Donnie: Come, mini-me! We have SCIENCE to do and laws to break!
80s Don: That sounds as fantastic as a Fibanocci sequence! Wait what type of laws-
2018!Donnie: Don'tworryaboutit let's GO!
#tmnt#rottmnt#tmnt donatello#donatello hamato#donatello splinterson#teenage mutant ninja turtles#rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles#listen. I love all Donatellos in their own unique ways#but both 18 & 12 did the 80s Don dirty#2018!Donnie meanwhile managed to Science his own MAGIC#(even if he still doesn't completely get it)#he wouldn't be annoyed at 80s don pulling cartoon bullshit#he'd be THRILLED to have another set of laws of reality to learn how to break
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For 1987 tmnt, do you ever think that the clones (from the episode Donatello’s Duplicate) just sort of hang around Donatello as ghosts? Like they just try to haunt him and he’s perfectly fine with it.
I love your idea this is my new favourite headcannon
I must draw this
(I’m going to 100% steal this for the fic if that’s okay IM IN LOVE)
#tmnt#tmnt headcannons#tmnt asks#tmnt 1987#tmnt 1987 donnie#headcannons#too many turtles#tmnt donnie#IM WHEEZING#who needs a multiverse to have a council with yourself am I right?#they’re in the vents
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watching a very specific episode of tmnt 1987 but not in order or anything (i cant watch episodic shows in order sorry) and its reminding me why i liked old cartoon so much. they could just say whatever and not worry about it not Making Sense cuz they were aware the concept was absurd in the first place.
donatello made a mistake in his *checks notes* math or something and now his clone is *checks notes again* twice as smart and twice as good at Ninja Skills than him. Also a rat can talk cuz when donnie was duplicating it as a test he accidentally stuck his finger in front of the Science Ray. also the rat king is so funny. Also a weird goon man said "juvenile karate reptiles" it's so good.
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And finally, bay Donnie redesign
Click for unfuzziness
#he bought duplicates of tac gear in the largest sizes and then Frankensteined it all together#keeping the arm ipad i think its hilarious#he thinks he is so kewl#gornack art tag#gornack click to see details tag#did NOT wanna render every tiny detail this morning#tmnt bayverse#bay tmnt#tmnt bay#bay donnie#tmnt donnie#tmnt donatello#tmnt redesign#tmnt bay redesign#tactical gear#everyone else thinks mikey put the stickers and pins on him but no it was him#let him be silly
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“Get In Dum-Dums, We're Going Vandalizing!”Master Post
(Not that I have much content out for this BUT-)
Summary:
*Slaps fic! This baby can fit so many turtles in it! Like, at least 16. Maybe more who knows. After defeating the Krang, the Rise crew are wary of other threats they may face just as threatening. And a journey across dimensions reveals that some alternate versions of them need more than a little help. And they’re just the kind of turtles that can provide! Old threats, familiar faces, and new brothers! Sure these foes are... a bit. tough. But hey! At least their counterparts are fun to hang out with! ..Even if some don't seem to like them at first...
1987 line up
smoothie
Get in Dum-Dums- draft drawings
52 old 87 Raphael
87 Red Sky Raphael
Krangified (Spoliers)
Donatello's Duplicate
More Art
Donatello Table Transformations
some shell retraction animation redesigns
Donnie with a Gun
Rise April
Raphael body attempt
03 Donnie writing on a board
87 brains-and-brawn
red sky twice mutation redesign
tmnt competition
Fic Snippets
chapter 3 draft hint 1, chapter 3 draft hint 2
chapter 4 draft intro
OFFICIALL CHAPTER 4 PREVIEW!
ch 4 draft wresting and video games?
Donatello Mary Shelly-Nurse Leonardo
ch-? angry 87 Michelangelo
ch-? 87 Donatello vs 03 Don
Donnie's Ninpo
Get in Dum-Dums Notes
timeloops
timeloop source I was inspired by
my added ramblings to risestarkiss's strentgh post
1987 Raphael and Donnatello hate-people?
87 gifts
87 fighting?
87 April?,
??
#get in dum dums#get in dum dums we’re going vandalizing#get in loser we’re going shopping#turtles forever ii#master list#master post#attempt#<tweaking this#GDD
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i understand theres 193 episodes of 87 so i get why people wouldnt watch all of it (like anything thats description says don turtelli is in it, skip it, trust me, you do not want to see that) BUT if anyone wants a list of good 87 tmnt episodes i started making one when we hit s4
id say watch s1 theres only 5 episodes and its the set up for the show but if you just want to put on some fun stuff heres a list i made while watching it (thus it is missing other good episodes cuz i only thought to do so halfway through the binge once we kept getting banger after banger)
raphael meets his match [the mona lisa episode, if you watch this you will understand why she kept coming back even tho shes only in this episode, shes an icon]
rebel without a fin [just genuinely one of the funniest episodes]
what's michelangelo good for [mikey talks to animals and proves his worth to the team]
donatellos degree [really good donnie ep, really good irma moments]
the big cufflink caper [the turtles join the mob, this premise alone sells it]
raphael drives em wild [raph bodyswaps with a new york cab driver]
michelangelo meets mondo gecko [need i say more?]
napoleon bonafrog colossus of the swamp [absolutely goofy, but i love the punk frogs, and april forklift certified confirmed]
raphael vs the volcano [raph thinks hes going to die so he becomes a superhero]
donatellos duplicate [donnie makes an evil clone]
leonardo the renaissance turtle [the turtles give up fighting crime cuz of a robo cop but Leo doesn’t trust it, really good Leo moments]
adventures in turtlesitting [second baby turtle episode, this time with big brother mikey]
return of the turtleoid [i just like the little turtle man ok]
shreekas revenge [krangs ex comes to town, he proposes to shredder, and this episode is a meme you cannot miss this one]
too hot to handle [donatello almost throws down with a 10 year old]
night of the dark turtle [donatello becomes batman, this one was clearly commentary on btas taking over as the popular kids cartoon so its SOOO funny abt it]
combatland [duplicate turtles, a donnie raph team up, best ending freezeframe]
shredder triumphant [the actual shows finale before it had to get edgy and all the people behind it changed hands, really good send off]
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okay, so there was no new winchesters tonight, but I HAVE been listening to the @endofthebookpod episode from the last new ep last week (go listen!). I haven’t had a chance to hear the whole episode yet, but i wanted to type this before my brain let go of it... huh, memory magic
SO. Anyway, point being, the discussion around Lata learning memory magic, and the comments about how it wasn’t really a big part of spn canon so wondering how it was going to be used... my VERY first thought when Lata offered to remove Roxy’s traumatic memories was of Cas in s6 taking all of Lisa and Ben’s memories of Dean (ostensibly to protect them and to unburden them from the horrific trauma they experienced because of their association with him-- only partly for Dean to protect them from being used against him again, but because he HATED what he’d done to Ben, having to watch his mother killed (or near as), and Ben both wanting to become a hunter like Dean and then having to confront what that actually means as Dean carried his dying mother to safety and Ben had to shoot someone (yes, a demon, but still, a person-shaped thing).
Okay that was a lot of words to say that DEAN HIMSELF had made that choice for someone else in the past, and here’s Roxy confronting all the suppressed traumatic memories and CHOOSING DELIBERATELY TO KEEP THEM. (I already wrote a bit about that here)
But memory magic was also like... a core staple of Heaven’s power structure. Cas spent several seasons dealing with the aftereffects of heaven’s torture, which largely involved brainwashing quite directly. Not only can most angels Obi Wan humans (these are not the droids you are looking for level stuff, or even the level that Zachariah used on Sam and Dean in episodes like 4.17 It’s A Terrible Life), but Naomi had a specially built device to specifically dig into angel main programming and tweak the internal dials-- everything from behavioral correction to what we will learn in later seasons involved deleting specific memories of things (like the fact Cas was a participant in several biblical atrocities like the killing of the firstborns, etc.).
Sure, Naomi needed specially constructed tools to achieve that level of mental manipulation-- which Crowley and his demons were then able to duplicate to use on Samandriel and eventually Sam/Gadreel-- but Cas? Well, he had a Particular Specialty with memory magic himself. It was a major plot point in s13. Not just in 13.14 Good Intentions when he confesses to Donatello that he had a special ability that he swore to never use on anyone without their consent, but that he deems it too urgent not to use it on Donatello, for the sake of the world. He feared the corruption that Donatello suffered because of the Demon Tablet, and he needed the information Donatello refused to give about the alternate universe gateway spell.
This power was supposedly unique to Castiel, like many other angels were “specialists.” Specifically we know Uriel’s specialty was smiting towns, Zachariah’s specialty was... lets call it giving unique experiences to people directly. Whatever. Cas’s special power was not only reading people’s minds (something we saw him do a good number of times before this-- like tapping Rowena’s forehead and knowing the one person she felt love for, Oskar), but also specifically stripping those memories from people’s minds.
Which is kinda what we saw him do to Lisa and Ben. And what he did from Donatello here. Literally removed the memories so he could sort through them all himself.
Is that what Lata is learning to do now, whether from Tony or some other source inside her dreams? To access other people’s memories and then selectively strip those memories away from the person?
Because that’s like a Cas Special.
(even the broken AU Castiel was called in to use that special talent specifically, to strip the information the angels wanted directly from Charlie and Ketch’s minds... if that was a standard angel power, they wouldn’t have needed to call in Cas specifically, and I always felt that was a MAJOR reason that version of Cas was as broken as he was, that being forced to use that power is what damaged him, since Our Cas had REFUSED to use the power until it was the only option they had left...)
(I won’t even mention The Empty and the Entity’s interesting power to just... flip through Cas’s memories in 13.04... okay i mentioned it, but I don’t know what else to do with it yet lol, other than to suggest that whatever is happening in The Winchesters is adjacent to or being affected by the Empty... I wouldn’t be shocked if the Akrida turned out to be agents of the Empty actually so... off point mittens, get back to the point now...)
but then that also made me wonder... did Cas hold on to all those memories he stripped from Lisa and Ben? Did he flip through them when he was feeling sad? did it actually make him feel WORSE about everything that had transpired leading up to 6.22 and the choices he made afterward? his determination to obliviate himself into Emmanuel even? or to stay in purgatory? heck... i just made myself very fucking sad...
Okay. I just needed all this on record. Memory magic is a HUGE part of spn, and whatever it’s leading up to in The Winchesters feels very, very relevant.
And also very, very connected to Cas.
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